Mini-Rally at the SRR

[chimp]

I may be the first person to use the term "anti-bonii" and if so, I hereby claim ownership forthwith

--chiba

Hmm ... the club is going to owe you one hell of a royalty payment depending on what you charge per page view

[wiredcur]

Look at this web page: http://www.capefear1000.com/rules.htm and scroll down to Section IV Bonus Hunting.

It doesn't explain exactly what a Bonus is, but by reading through that section you get a pretty good idea.

Think of the Rally as a route with start/fin and a couple/few checkpoints. Those are the points you have to hit to "complete" the Rally, and you get x amount of points for hitting them on time and in the right order. Just by finishing the rally you get a certain amount of points.

Add in extra (koff - BONUS) point-gathering opportunities along the way, between the checkpoints and now you've got the bigger picture of what this kind of Rally is about. By finishing the rally and fulfilling the requirements of the bonii, you get more points - and the rider with the most points wins.

They also often have ANTI-BONII such as getting pulled over (you seal your driver's license in an envelope before you leave - if you have to produce your DL you LOSE y points) and missing a time deadline for a checkpoint or the finish line.

I may be the first person to use the term "anti-bonii" and if so, I hereby claim ownership forthwith

--chiba

The DL in an envelope is not really an ANTI-BONUS. If you produce your sealed envelope at the end you get the Bonus Points. It's NOT assumed that you got an envelope to start with. Ask me how I know this.

The only ANTI-BONII I can think of are the time penalties at the end of certain rallies. For instance, the VOID II ran from 5:30am to 5:30pm. However, if you arrived after 5:00pm, points were subtracted from your total based on some weird formula Gary Stipe came up with. (actually, it wasn't all THAT weird)

If you did absolutely nothing to gain bonus points and came back at 5:29:59. You'd have a negative score. Actually, if you came back at 5:01:01, you'd have a negative score.

[Hello Kitty]

One more minor correction here. Some rallies do have mandatory check points, called mandatories (go figure) but this one will not. There will be a list of several bonus locations with different point values for each, you will try to plot the route that nets you the most points. The rider with the most points wins. There will more than likely be stuff like the route declaration and DL in a sealed envelope, maybe other stuff too just to see who can read and understand.

Yippee!! So, I say Tim and I will be the Rally Bastards (I'm getting more manly by the minute!!). Since I'm meaner than Tim, he'll have to defer to me for official decisions

[BMWGirl]

One more minor correction here. Some rallies do have mandatory check points, called mandatories (go figure) but this one will not. There will be a list of several bonus locations with different point values for each, you will try to plot the route that nets you the most points. The rider with the most points wins. There will more than likely be stuff like the route declaration and DL in a sealed envelope, maybe other stuff too just to see who can read and understand.

Yippee!! So, I say Tim and I will be the Rally Bastards (I'm getting more manly by the minute!!). Since I'm meaner than Tim, he'll have to defer to me for official decisions

Kitty - I'm so hurt - does that mean you are dumping me at registration for Tim in Rallies??? I miss you!!!


ps - I know I never asked you again for registration - but it's not the point.

[Hello Kitty]

One more minor correction here. Some rallies do have mandatory check points, called mandatories (go figure) but this one will not. There will be a list of several bonus locations with different point values for each, you will try to plot the route that nets you the most points. The rider with the most points wins. There will more than likely be stuff like the route declaration and DL in a sealed envelope, maybe other stuff too just to see who can read and understand.

Yippee!! So, I say Tim and I will be the Rally Bastards (I'm getting more manly by the minute!!). Since I'm meaner than Tim, he'll have to defer to me for official decisions

Kitty - I'm so hurt - does that mean you are dumping me at registration for Tim in Rallies??? I miss you!!!


ps - I know I never asked you again for registration - but it's not the point.

Nah, I can still help with registration some. You were really good with the mike for the awards, I'm too shy (seriously, for that kind of thing) I can help and hand out prizes and shake people's hand and stuff though. I can take a few shifts at registration, but would probably be a little wrapped up in rally stuff. Probably better for me to work early on Friday before we do the rider's meeting.

Honey, would I dump you?

[Hello Kitty]

PS I kind of think this one should remain separate from the SRR planning thread unless you're talking about what times and stuff to put in the program. Just my opinon

[guitardad]

OK, my thoughts before retiring to the private Rally-Bastard forum!

Six hours is a good target. Maybe shorten the "grace period" where a rider can still be a finisher, but points are deducted. So I'd suggest start at 8 am, normal finish at 2, DNF at 2:30, and scoring table closes at 3. That gives us time to score everybody, and be ready to present awards to the winners that evening.

I think the Square Route Rally Squared should be free, but participants MUST be a registered, paid attendee of the SRR. And maybe a limit on the number of SRR2 competitors. 25 seems like too few, 50 too many to score in the time available. Suggestions? 33, for the 33rd annual rally?

And one more thing. Too many people think LD riding is all about speeding. How about making the penalty for a Performance Award onerous enough that no one will reasonably try it.

I've got some more ideas, butt those will wait for the actual planning.

[Hello Kitty]

OK, my thoughts before retiring to the private Rally-Bastard forum!

Six hours is a good target. Maybe shorten the "grace period" where a rider can still be a finisher, but points are deducted. So I'd suggest start at 8 am, normal finish at 2, DNF at 2:30, and scoring table closes at 3. That gives us time to score everybody, and be ready to present awards to the winners that evening.

I think the Square Route Rally Squared should be free, but participants MUST be a registered, paid attendee of the SRR. And maybe a limit on the number of SRR2 competitors. 25 seems like too few, 50 too many to score in the time available. Suggestions? 33, for the 33rd annual rally?

And one more thing. Too many people think LD riding is all about speeding. How about making the penalty for a Performance Award onerous enough that no one will reasonably try it.

I've got some more ideas, butt those will wait for the actual planning.

I agree with everything except the performance award award. It should be a very hefty penalty, no doubt. Butt let's not forget about Mark Sigley at The Void II! Maybe you didn't hear the story, but he was required to present his license because of another rider (not in the rally) who did something stupid near Mark and in front of a police officer.

I like the idea of limiting the field and making it free. Again, only if we get our acts together and get prizes through the kindness of JVB and BOD.

[guitardad]

I agree with everything except the performance award award. It should be a very hefty penalty, no doubt. Butt let's not forget about Mark Sigley at The Void II! Maybe you didn't hear the story, but he was required to present his license because of another rider (not in the rally) who did something stupid near Mark and in front of a police officer.

I like the idea of limiting the field and making it free. Again, only if we get our acts together and get prizes through the kindness of JVB and BOD.

I remember the story, but let's face it, there are plenty of things that can happen that are out of the rider's control that can impact his/her finish. And I certainly wouldn't go anywhere close to DNF'ing a rider. Maybe it's an Anti-Bonus (tm chiba).

Anyway, we need either a private area on this board, or a Yahoo group, or sumplace to start planning in earnest. Kres? Is that even possible?

[Hello Kitty]

Yeah, there are private forums, but I trust no one, not even the mods here and they'd probably have access. We can do reply all emails to keep it simple... Sound good? It'd only be a couple of us. I guess me, you and Tim. If Ed wants to help he can, but he does so much other stuff, maybe we can just use him as a consultant/guru of such things and do the grunt work ourselves?

[Dough Boy]

PM's cannot be read by the mods...

[Hello Kitty]

PM's cannot be read by the mods...

That's good to know! However, with a couple folks involved and our inability to send a PM to more than one person at a time, I think we'll work something out amonst us deviant RB's.

Actually, I think this was our first attempted cheater! We're on to you, Dough Boy. We're on to you. Watch yourself!

[guitardad]

All lies, misdirection, and general chaos!

[JimVonBaden]

Yeah, there are private forums, but I trust no one, not even the mods here and they'd probably have access. We can do reply all emails to keep it simple... Sound good? It'd only be a couple of us. I guess me, you and Tim. If Ed wants to help he can, but he does so much other stuff, maybe we can just use him as a consultant/guru of such things and do the grunt work ourselves?

No worries here. I can mod it since there is zero chance of me or Tina being IN the mini-rally.

Jim

[Hello Kitty]

Yeah, there are private forums, but I trust no one, not even the mods here and they'd probably have access. We can do reply all emails to keep it simple... Sound good? It'd only be a couple of us. I guess me, you and Tim. If Ed wants to help he can, but he does so much other stuff, maybe we can just use him as a consultant/guru of such things and do the grunt work ourselves?

No worries here. I can mod it since there is zero chance of me or Tina being IN the mini-rally.

Jim

Yes, there are worries. You could be a spy for the likes of BreadBoy. We have a plan that does not involve the board, thank you very much!