ABATE in Annapolis...

[RJP3579]

So ABATE held a rally in Annapolis to get the helmet law repealed again as well as rally support for the aging tire bill. The tire bill would require a manufacturer or distrubutor to affix a label on the tire with the tires date of manufacture as well as a bit about how age affects a tire. Then the merchant who sells you the tire must have you sign a disclosure as to the age of the tire and they must keep a copy for three years.
So, the gubermint can't tell me to wear a helmet for my safety but it can tell businesses to put more labels on stuff and have me sign more stuff and have the cost of tires go up to pay for all these labels and disclosures when I can look on the tire and see the date of manufacture myself, for my safety.

http://wbal.com/article/87941/3/template-story/See-Video-Motorcyclists-Rally-In-Annapolis

[T.Wesley]

Yeah, that totally makes sense. Sheesh, bureaucracy.

[ERC Scott]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

[RocketMan]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

How do you know it doesn't mean 1911 ???? I mean really, they did have motorcycles back then....

RM

[ERC Scott]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

How do you know it doesn't mean 1911 ???? I mean really, they did have motorcycles back then....

RM

True -- but they (we) didn't have a DOT or a mandate for safety info on tires Or, helmets for that matter. In fact, my grandfather started riding not too long after 1911 as a dispatch courier in WWI operations. I have a photo of him astride his Indian sidecar in USA uniform wearing what I think was a campaign hat (Smokey bear wide brim). Kept the rain out of his eyes.

Scott

[dcgsrider]

So ABATE held a rally in Annapolis to get the helmet law repealed again as well as rally support for the aging tire bill. The tire bill would require a manufacturer or distrubutor to affix a label on the tire with the tires date of manufacture as well as a bit about how age affects a tire. Then the merchant who sells you the tire must have you sign a disclosure as to the age of the tire and they must keep a copy for three years.
So, the gubermint can't tell me to wear a helmet for my safety but it can tell businesses to put more labels on stuff and have me sign more stuff and have the cost of tires go up to pay for all these labels and disclosures when I can look on the tire and see the date of manufacture myself, for my safety.

http://wbal.com/article/87941/3/template-story/See-Video-Motorcyclists-Rally-In-Annapolis

Sounds like a solution in search of a problem. Is there really a rash of unscrupulous dealers and tire distributors fobbing off dodgy tires on an unsuspecting public? Besides, whatever happened to "caveat emptor"? Look at the date codes.

[Georgeinva]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

This is true for tire built after 2000. Before 2000 they will have a 3 digit code.

Listening to the video it sound like he said titling bill. He also said it applies to scooters and mopeds. I don't know if scooter tires have date codes.

The only relevant issue I see is warranty. Most manufactures will not cover a tire that is over 5 years old.

[redman]

Scooter tires do have date codes. At least the 8 I have do.

[guitardad]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

'zactly. The new front tire I need for Sonic arrived this week - date code 3811. I'll assume it's not 1911. (OK with you, Jeff? ) It's actually a Federal DOT requirement. Not sure why we need another state law to address it.

[henwin]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

'zactly. The new front tire I need for Sonic arrived this week - date code 3811. I'll assume it's not 1911. (OK with you, Jeff? ) It's actually a Federal DOT requirement. Not sure why we need another state law to address it.

We don't need a state law--we've got the Feds covering for us. It just shows you that certain lawmakers are not to ....(I don't want to be too harsh, here) uh, OK, bright, when it comes to making laws. You'd think they'd at least do a little investigation to see if what they want to do isn't already covered by somebody else--maybe higher up the food chain. I call these people FMs (the 2nd word is "morons").

[Anton]

ABATE... the same folks whose Georgia chapter director thought that full-face helmets endangered riders because they reduced the availability of oxygen.

Seriously.

[henwin]

ABATE... the same folks whose Georgia chapter director thought that full-face helmets endangered riders because they reduced the availability of oxygen.Seriously.

He/she rides on the MOON, right Another example of a FM.........

[RocketMan]

Pretty sure that every street legal tire (car & bike) sold in USA has a "born-on" date code impressed onto the tire sidewall, along with max pressure & other info.
The code is 4 numerals: first 2 are the # of week of production & last 2 are the year. So a code of 1011 indicates a production in early March 2011. Scott

'zactly. The new front tire I need for Sonic arrived this week - date code 3811. I'll assume it's not 1911. (OK with you, Jeff? ) It's actually a Federal DOT requirement. Not sure why we need another state law to address it.

No

RM

[RocketMan]

ABATE... the same folks whose Georgia chapter director thought that full-face helmets endangered riders because they reduced the availability of oxygen.

Seriously.

Actually, if you think about it, the greater danger would be suffocation due to all the C02 getting trapped inside the helmet rather than a lack of O2...


just saying....































then again, if you actually did think about it, you'd realize how incredibly numskullery idiotic someone would have to be to even consider it a possibility!


And as far as the on the Moon comment made by someone else..... hate to tell you but..... there is NO air on the moon so it wouldn't even Be an issue, Duh!!!

RM

[Anton]

I actually still have the posts from the Airheads list where this was mentioned in late November, 2005:

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I have in front of me the local free motorcycle magazine "Bikes & Babes". On page 24 in an article by Jim George state director ABATE of Georgia. He reports that when the weather turns cold and we wear scarves and full face helmets our inflow of fresh oxygen is decreased and is replaced with our own exhaled carbon dioxide. Allegedly this increase in CO2 causes the rider to become "light headed" possibly causing a "black-Out" which usually results in an accident, often fatal.
He further alleges that former astronaut Pete Conrad died in a MC crash in 1999 the cause of which was a direct result of "oxygen deprivation"
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All due respect to the Astronaut but he was riding a Harley farm tractor, speeding, and failed to negotiate a fairly simple turn. The weather at that time was in the 70-80 degree range. I doubt seriously that he had a scarf on. Furthermore, he was wearing one of those Tupperware helmets.
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... An astronaut of all people would be well aware of the symptoms....
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More gems from "Greetings from God's Country, the State of Georgia" by Jim George of ABATE ... "A related cause of single vehicle accidents resulting in fatalities is wearing full face helmets and gear." - Jim George in B&B, Dec. '05 issue